Here are learnings about the partnership:

• It took a lot of time to partner with BMP
• We worked really well together
• It was helpful to have Natalie and Noelia meet and keep the partnership going rather than have all the directors meet
• Our partnership meant many more people turned out for the webinar
• It cost about $30K in time to put on (including the time to partner with BMP). Would have been good to charge a small fee to recoup that
• We did not do a good job of bringing Change Elemental team along and so it’s not clear if this framework influenced other work on systems change and equity that our team is putting together

●     Pluses/Deltas (use survey data if helpful)

○     What went well?

■     Turnout — lots of people attended

■     Engagement — a lot of people asking questions during the webinar

■     Content was good/well received beyond what I was anticipating

■     Stories were effective

■     Speakers got value out of participating – not an extractive thing of getting insights from them and not giving them value. For Rev. .Ross opportunity to talk about the work on a natl stage

■     Learned about how people can be doing systems work at many different levels

○     What might have gone differently?

■     Listeners didn’t have enough context around how stories were examples of systems of change. Could have been a prepped question.

■     Because systems are very messy, it’s hard for folks who are in them to map back onto the frameworks

■     More we could have done as speakers to pull up key bits and pieces of story for audience — could have done more to redirect speakers and reframe stories. No more prep we could have done.  Not about prep, about how we’re engaging with speakers on call to bring out their story

■     Length of time to move things along — took too long. Elements of being critical of our own work and own work product

■     Level of hesitancy about putting something out there

■     Shifting audience around led to challenges — first for white dominant audience, then to different audience.

■     Defining the audience would have been helpful and making that more explicit. No way to restrict the audience. Bias to make ppl uncomfortable and let ppl in the community push the envelope.

■     What was the systemic change and how does the framework map onto the systemic change effort. How do we make that critique of systems change effort from a race lens.

●     Neither Rev. Ross now Lauren explicitly talked about race and power. Rev. Ross softened critique.

■     For COP: how do we better connect these characteristics to actual systems change itself.